Sports Camera 30fps

Mini DV tapes vs. Memory/P2 Cards?

Hello everyone, just wanted your opinion on something troubling me. I am looking into getting a professional HD video camera much like the panasonic hvx200. I have a huge list of cameras to look into but my big problem is deciding if I should get a camera that uses memory cards or mini tapes. What are the advantages for the two? I will be using this camera to shoot action sports, I can't see myself using it for anything else.

Thanks!
Also, what is there any quality difference between these options?

Hi, Austen,

Tape is nice because it's cheap. It's also proven for its reliability (it's been around for over 60 years!) But that's not to say that it's the best media on the scene.

Tape, nowadays, is really more of an archive medium. Its physical limitations have pretty much doomed it. (Compare, for example, the price of hard drives vs. tape backup systems for computers. The tape media is almost the same price as a hard drive of the same capacity. Lesson: Why "archive" onto tape when you can "archive" onto another hard drive, which also affords you random access?)

It's almost unfair comparing the P2 card to tape, as the P2 does so much more. Instead, I will list the benefits of the P2 vs both Tape, HDD, and DVD media.

First of all, the P2 has no moving parts, so jarring the camera won't cause a head crash, tape crease, etc, which could plague the HDDs, Tapes, and DVD media.

P2 media can be hot-swapped. That means that you can pull a P2 card out of one slot while the P2 card in the other slot keeps recording. You can then unload that P2 card onto an outboard "server" (or tape, or computer, or whatever,) then reload that card in the empty slot (or just use another empty P2 card.) Theoretically, this means you could record forever without ever running out of media. (The limit here would be your battery.) There's also a Loop Recording Mode which will first fill up card 1, then card 2, then, once both cards are full, start re-recording over the first card again, then the second, etc...)

Because the P2 systems can write to multiple cards at a time (some models,) P2 media transferrs data VERY quickly, which, of course, means you can write more of it. That "more of it" could be in the form of a higher picture resolution (ie: the RED ONE 4k mode requires physical solid state media) or using less / no video compression for a higher quality image. HDDs have a limit that they can write at, as do tapes and DVDs.

Each card on its own can offload data at about 8x normal speed. That means you go from Shooting to Posting 8x faster. (Most tape needs to be played at real time speed, and HDDs will generally net you up to a 2x transfer speed, with DVD media being somewhere in the 2x range, but dependent on the speed of the drive.)

P2 media is also better in harsher conditions. For example, if you're shooting in the desert, at a beach, or in any area with a greater amount of dust, the P2 card would rule over tape or DVD, with the HDD being the only other decent option.

ANOTHER benefit is longevity. P2 cards will last YEARS! (Panasonic's website says that if a P2 card is filled up ALL THE WAY every day, it will last 5 years (about 1825 passes.) Compare that to tape, where you're lucky to get 40 passes, though I wouldn't trust tape for anything important over 3.)

The downside is archival. Ideally, this is where tapes (and increasingly HDDs) shine. A P2 card can cost about $1k (list price) for a 64 GB card, which alone will afford you from 64 minutes of A/V at 1080p/30fps to 5:20 at 720p/24fps. (Surprisingly, SD video on a 64 Gig card will net you between 128 and 256 minutes of record time, presumably based on the recording codec.)

Whatever camera you end up buying, make sure everything I'm saying here applies. Sometimes "features" of the media get left out for whatever reason, or accessing a feature is difficult (ie: continuous recording on the hot-swappable cards.)

I hope this helps out.

- Z

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